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03/13/2023 03:30 PM Senate RESOURCES

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*+ HJR 5 ALASKA FISHERIES; TROLL FISHERIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHJR 5(FSH) Out of Committee
-- Invited & Public Testimony --
Amy Daugherty, Executive Director, Alaska
Trollers Association; Tim O'Connor, Craig Mayor;
Dani Evenson, ADF&G, Alaska Treaty Coordinator
+= SB 67 PFAS USE FIREFIGHTING TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 49 CARBON STORAGE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
Kevin Connors, Assistant Director for Regulatory
Compliance and Energy Policy with the Energy and
Environmental Research Center (EERC)
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
**Streamed live on AKL.tv**
            HJR  5-ALASKA FISHERIES; TROLL FISHERIES                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:32:09 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP  announced  the  consideration of  CS  FOR  HOUSE                                                              
JOINT RESOLUTION  NO. 5(FSH)  Urging the  United States  Secretary                                                              
of Commerce,  the National  Marine Fisheries  Service, the  Alaska                                                              
Department  of  Fish  and  Game,   and  other  federal  and  state                                                              
agencies   to  defend   the  state's   fisheries,  including   the                                                              
Southeast Alaska troll fishery.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
He stated the intention  to hear the bill and look  to the will of                                                              
the committee.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:32:32 PM                                                                                                                    
REPRESENTATIVE  REBECCA   HIMSCHOOT,  District  2,   Alaska  State                                                              
Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  sponsor  of HJR  5, introduced  the                                                              
legislation speaking to the following prepared statement:                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     HJRS  urges federal  and state agencies  to continue  to                                                                   
     defend  Alaska's  fisheries,   including  the  Southeast                                                                   
     Alaska troll fishery.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     This  is important  because  the  lawsuit filed  by  the                                                                   
     Seattle-based  Wild Fish  Conservancy  that targets  the                                                                   
     local  Southeast  Alaska  salmon   troll  fishery  is  a                                                                   
     threat to  a way of life.  Southeast households  rely on                                                                   
     salmon as  a food source,  communities depend  on salmon                                                                   
     to  support the  salmon  and  tourism sectors  that  are                                                                   
     pillars  of  the  economy.  There  is  every  reason  to                                                                   
     protect these fish.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     The  fear is  that this  is  an attack on  one that  may                                                                   
     become  an attack  on all. . Rather  than examining  the                                                                   
     pollution,  vessel traffic, dams  in salmon streams  and                                                                   
     other  pressures on the  areas in  their area, the  Wild                                                                   
     Fish Conservancy  has attacked the local troll  fleet of                                                                   
     Southeast  Alaska,   1,000  miles  away.  I'd   like  to                                                                   
     explain  who  the  trollers  are and  what  the  lawsuit                                                                   
     contends.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Data  from the  last 100  years shows  that trolling  is                                                                   
     one  of the  most  sustainable  fisheries there  is.  It                                                                   
     involves  about  1,500  fishermen who  bring  about  $85                                                                   
     million  into the  local economy.  Each  fish is  caught                                                                   
     with a  hook and line. The  bycatch is the  most limited                                                                   
     of any  fishery. Trolling is  a low barrier  fishery, so                                                                   
     almost  all  Southeast  communities,   including  Meyers                                                                   
     Chuck, have at  least one troller. Each  trolling vessel                                                                   
     is  a   family  business,   and  each  family   business                                                                   
     supports local schools and local economies.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE HIMSCHOOT deferred to Thatcher Brower to provide                                                                 
additional information.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:35:15 PM                                                                                                                    
THATCHER   BROUWER,  Staff,   Representative  Rebecca   Himschoot,                                                              
Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,  stated that  he is  a                                                              
commercial troller  who fishes  in the summer  and he  also serves                                                              
on  the  Alaska  Trollers  Association   Board  of  Directors.  He                                                              
conveyed the following in support of HJR 5:                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     •  In  2019,  the  National  Marine   Fisheries  Service                                                                   
        conducted  a consultation  and  issued  a  Biological                                                                   
        Opinion under the  Endangered Species Act  (ESA) that                                                                   
        considers  what  effect   implementing  the   fishing                                                                   
        regimes, negotiated by the Pacific  Salmon Commission                                                                   
        (Treaty), will have  on species listed  as threatened                                                                   
        or  endangered  under  the  Endangered  Species  Act.                                                                   
        These species  include  Chinook salmon  and  Southern                                                                   
        Resident Killer Whales. An Incidental  Take Statement                                                                   
        was  issued,  which   allows  the  fisheries   to  be                                                                   
        conducted  under  State  of  Alaska  authority  using                                                                   
        measures which  are  believed necessary  to  minimize                                                                   
        impacts on listed stocks.                                                                                               
        • On March 18, 2020, the Wild Fish Conservancy, a                                                                       
        Washington-based  organization,  filed   a  complaint                                                                   
        against  the   National   Marine  Fisheries   Service                                                                   
       seeking to invalidate the 2019 Biological Opinion.                                                                       
      • Wild Fish Conservancy sought to halt the production                                                                     
        of Chinook salmon  by Columbia River hatcheries  that                                                                   
        were intended  to increase prey  availability to  the                                                                   
        Southern   Resident   Killer   Whales.    Wild   Fish                                                                   
        Conservancy also sought to invalidate  the Incidental                                                                   
        Take Statement  that  covered  the  Southeast  Alaska                                                                   
        troll fishery.                                                                                                          
         • In September 2021, Magistrate Judge Michelle                                                                         
        Peterson issued a  Report and Recommendation  finding                                                                   
        that the analysis  governing the Columbia  River prey                                                                   
        increase program  was flawed under  federal law,  and                                                                   
        that the  Incidental  Take  Statement  governing  the                                                                   
        Southeast  Alaska troll  fishery  was  therefor  also                                                                   
        legally  deficient.   Judge  Richard  Jones   adopted                                                                   
        Magistrate Peterson's  Report  and Recommendation  on                                                                   
        August 8, 2022.                                                                                                         
      • National Marine Fisheries Service is rewriting the                                                                      
        Biological Opinion, but it will probably  [take] some                                                                   
        time.                                                                                                                   
       • Since the adoption of the magistrate's Report and                                                                      
        Recommendation, the  parties engaged  in briefing  on                                                                   
        what  the  remedy   for  National  Marine   Fisheries                                                                   
        Service's  violations  should  be.    Judge  Peterson                                                                   
        issued  a   second  Report   and  Recommendation   on                                                                   
        December 13,  2022.  That  Report and  Recommendation                                                                   
        would invalidate  the Incidental  Take Statement  for                                                                   
        the Southeast  Alaska troll fishery  with respect  to                                                                   
        the  winter  and  summer  fisheries,   putting  those                                                                   
        seasons in jeopardy.                                                                                                    
      • U.S. District Court Judge Jones is now deliberating                                                                     
        on the U.S.  Magistrate Judge  Peterson's Report  and                                                                   
        Recommendations for the  remedy and will  likely make                                                                   
        a decision in the near future.                                                                                          
      • If the judge rules in the plaintiff's favor, there                                                                      
        is an opportunity for the case to be appealed to the                                                                    
         th                                                                                                                     
        9 Circuit Court of Appeals.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:38:24 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:38:42 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  BISHOP   reconvened  the   meeting  and  opened   public                                                              
testimony on HJR 5.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
3:39:05 PM                                                                                                                    
AMY DAUGHERTY,  Executive Director,  Alaska Trollers  Association,                                                              
Juneau, Alaska,  testified in  support of HJR  5. She  stated that                                                              
the  Southeast troll  fishery  predates any  data  keeping by  the                                                              
Alaska   Department  of   Fish  and   Game   (ADF&G)  and   during                                                              
Territorial Days. She  said this fishery is subject  to the treaty                                                              
allocation  and the  Board  of Fisheries  and  it  was doing  well                                                              
until the Wild  Fish Conservancy filed a lawsuit.  Since then, ATA                                                              
has  been doing  everything possible  to  keep Southeast  trollers                                                              
fishing.  She noted  that the  congressional  delegation filed  an                                                              
amicus  brief  based  on  the economic  importance  of  the  troll                                                              
fishery to the entire Southeast region that includes Yakutat.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:41:22 PM                                                                                                                    
TIM O'CONNOR, Mayor  of Craig and Vice President,  Alaska Trollers                                                              
Association,  Craig, Alaska,  testified in  support of  HJR 5.  He                                                              
stated that  Craig is  the main  port on  Prince of Wales  Island,                                                              
which has a total  population of just under 4,000.  The commercial                                                              
seafood landings  at the port total  21 million pounds and  have a                                                              
value of  $22.7 million.  The port  is ranked  30th in  the nation                                                              
for poundage  and 52nd for  valuation based  on the top  137 ports                                                              
in the  US. Since  logging has  all but  disappeared on  Prince of                                                              
Wales  Island,  commercial  and sport  fishing  are  mainstays  of                                                              
Craig's economy.  The Wild  Fish Conservancy  lawsuit targets  the                                                              
troll industry,  but  if it's successful  all  gear groups  are at                                                              
risk. He  said the  Alaska Trollers  Association  and the City  of                                                              
Craig  need  the  state  to commit  resources  to  help  stop  the                                                              
lawsuit  and  protect  the  state's   right  to  manage  its  fish                                                              
resources.  That right  is in  jeopardy. He  highlighted that  the                                                              
City of  Craig recently passed  Resolution 23-03  supporting ATA's                                                              
defense  against  the  WFC  lawsuit. He  urged  the  committee  to                                                              
support HJR 5.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:43:42 PM                                                                                                                    
DANI  EVENSON,  Extended  Jurisdiction   Program  Manager,  Alaska                                                              
Department of Fish  and Game (ADF&G), Juneau, Alaska,  stated that                                                              
she also  serves as  the Pacific  Salmon Treaty Coordinator.  This                                                              
makes  her  the  department's  point   person  on  the  Wild  Fish                                                              
Conservancy lawsuit  alongside Aaron Peterson from  the Department                                                              
of  Law. She  continued her  testimony speaking  to the  following                                                              
prepared remarks:                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     This  case  is  a  challenge   to  the  National  Marine                                                                   
     Fisheries  Service  (NMFS) Biological  Opinion  for  the                                                                   
     Southeast  Alaska salmon  fishery    the  document  that                                                                   
     gives  Alaska Endangered Species  Act (ESA)  "incidental                                                                   
     take"  coverage and  allows  our Pacific  Salmon  Treaty                                                                   
     salmon fisheries  to operate.   The State of  Alaska and                                                                   
     Alaska  Trollers  Association  (ATA) intervened  in  the                                                                   
     case to defend Alaska's fisheries and interests.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     The lawsuit  was brought by  the Wild Fish  Conservancy,                                                                   
     a conservation  organization based in Washington  State.                                                                   
     The  suit specifically  attacks  Alaska's management  of                                                                   
     its  Chinook salmon  troll fisheries  under the  Pacific                                                                   
     Salmon  Treaty. The  lawsuit argues  that the  Southeast                                                                   
     Alaska Chinook  troll fishery threatens the  survival of                                                                   
     several ESA-listed  Chinook salmon stocks  in Washington                                                                   
     and  Oregon,   and  the  endangered  Southern   Resident                                                                   
     Killer Whales  that depend on  Chinook salmon  for food.                                                                   
     The   Federal  Court   in   the  Western   District   of                                                                   
     Washington ruled  in favor of the Wild  Fish Conservancy                                                                   
     supporting their claims.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:48:59 PM                                                                                                                    
     The  Wild Fish  Conservancy  disputed  the provision  of                                                                   
     the  BiOp   [Biological  Opinion]  that   required  $118                                                                   
     million of  federal funding  be provided for  mitigation                                                                   
     actions  to support Chinook  salmon hatchery  production                                                                   
     to  increase   prey  for  killer  whales,   Puget  Sound                                                                   
     habitat  restoration,   and  Puget  Sound   conservation                                                                   
     hatcheries.    These  actions   not  only  allow  Alaska                                                                   
     fisheries to  continue in the face of ESA  concerns, but                                                                   
     also  provide mitigation  to allow  salmon fisheries  in                                                                   
     the lower 48  to proceed.  This lawsuit does  not attack                                                                   
     similar   fisheries  that  occur   off  the  coasts   of                                                                   
     Washington and Oregon, despite similar impacts.                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
     The  District  Court  Judge   ruled  on  behalf  of  the                                                                   
     Plaintiff   Wild Fish  Conservancy     citing that  NMFS                                                                   
     violated  its  obligations  under  the  ESA  [Endangered                                                                   
     Species  Act] and  NEPA [National  Environmental  Policy                                                                   
     Act] in issuing its incidental take statement.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Key Points  from the Judge's  order on summary  judgment                                                                   
     11included:                                                                                                                
        1. NMFS's actions require certain mitigation                                                                            
        2. NMFS  failed  to  create   a  binding   mitigation                                                                   
          measure  that  described   "in  detail  the  action                                                                   
          agency's  plan to offset  the environmental  damage                                                                   
          caused  by  the  project"  for  the  prey  increase                                                                   
          program.                                                                                                              
        3. NMFS's failure to  make  a jeopardy  determination                                                                   
          on the prey increase program for the Chinook                                                                          
          salmon ESUs violated its obligations under the                                                                        
          ESA                                                                                                                   
        4. NMFS violated  NEPA requirements  in  issuing  the                                                                   
          ITS.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Present Situation                                                                                                          
     The lawsuit  is currently in  the "remedy" phase.   U.S.                                                                   
     Magistrate Judge  Michelle Peterson issued a  report and                                                                   
     recommendation  (R&R) and  proposed order  mid-December.                                                                   
     The magistrate recommends:                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
        (1) the  Biological Opinion  be remanded  to NMFS  to                                                                   
        remedy ESA and NEPA violations,                                                                                         
        (2) portions  of the  2019 SEAK  BiOp that  authorize                                                                   
        "take"  of   SRKW  and   ESA-listed  Chinook   salmon                                                                   
        resulting from commercial harvests of  Chinook salmon                                                                   
        during the winter  and summer seasons  (excluding the                                                                   
        spring season) of the troll fisheries be VACATED.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     In  other   words,  removing  ESA  coverage   for  these                                                                   
     fisheries  while  NMFS  fixes  the  flawed  BiOp.    The                                                                   
     magistrate judge  denied Plaintiff's requests  to vacate                                                                   
     the portion  of the  BiOp on  the prey increase  program                                                                   
     and  to enjoin  implementation  of  that program.    The                                                                   
     parties  have completed  briefings  on their  objections                                                                   
     to   the   magistrate's   report    and   recommendation                                                                   
     regarding  the   appropriate  remedy,  and   last  week,                                                                   
     Alaska's  congressional   delegation  filed   an  amicus                                                                   
     curae  brief  to provide  support  to the  troll  fleet.                                                                   
     This  portion of the  case will  be under  consideration                                                                   
     by the District Judge in the near future.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     3:51:36 PM                                                                                                               
     This litigation  is still active  and what happens  next                                                                   
     is  in  the  hands  of the  judge.    In  the  meantime,                                                                   
     fisheries  are  proceeding  as normal  and  ADF&G  staff                                                                   
     have  offered assistance  to NMFS to  help re-write  the                                                                   
     BiOp since time is of the essence.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Viewpoint                                                                                                                  
     The State of  Alaska abides by the terms  of the Pacific                                                                   
     Salmon Treaty  and the Biological  Opinion that  is tied                                                                   
     to it and  it is troubling that this ruling  singles out                                                                   
     our  fisheries. We  have a  responsibility  to look  out                                                                   
     for   our   fisheries   and    the   Southeast   coastal                                                                   
     communities  and families that  rely on  them.  We  will                                                                   
     defend  the right  for our  fisheries  to operate  while                                                                   
     the  NMFS  addresses  the rewrite  of  their  Biological                                                                   
     Opinion   and  that  includes   appealing  any   adverse                                                                   
     decision that unjustly only targets our fisheries.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Further,  Alaska will  not  tolerate the  suspension  of                                                                   
     its fisheries  while other west coast  fisheries equally                                                                   
     impactful  to  killer  whales  and  dependent  upon  the                                                                   
     hatchery mitigation  actions contained in  the Southeast                                                                   
     Alaska Biological  Opinion, but  not the target  of this                                                                   
     lawsuit,  are  allowed to  proceed.   If  this  decision                                                                   
     sticks,  we will  be  looking  at having  all  fisheries                                                                   
     that  affect these  salmon being  treated equally  under                                                                   
     the law.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:54:03 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR CLAMAN  said he  wasn't clear about  what the  judge ruled                                                              
on in favor of the plaintiff and the remedy that was sought.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:54:14 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WIELECHOWSKI joined the committee.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. EVANSON  said key  points on  summary judgement included  that                                                              
part  of  the  $118 million  mitigation  package  was  the  annual                                                              
requirement to  provide NMFS  with no less  than $5.6  million per                                                              
year  for hatchery  production. The  judge said  this couldn't  be                                                              
guaranteed because  congressional appropriations are  annual. NMFS                                                              
also failed  to create binding  mitigation measures  that provided                                                              
a detailed description  of the action agency's plan  to offset the                                                              
environmental damage  caused by the project for  the prey increase                                                              
program. The question  was whether ESA listed species  in the area                                                              
were  impacted  by   the  increase  in  hatchery   fish.  NMFS  is                                                              
addressing  this   in  separate   biological  opinions   for  each                                                              
hatchery.   She   said  NMFS's   failure   to  make   a   jeopardy                                                              
determination  on  the  prey  increase   program  for  the  listed                                                              
Chinook  salmon  violated  its obligations  under  the  Endangered                                                              
Species  Act and  that NMFS  violated  the National  Environmental                                                              
Policy   Act  requirements   in   issuing   its  incidental   take                                                              
statement.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN said he'd continue the conversation offline.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:57:10 PM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:57:21 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP reconvened the meeting.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:57:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KAWASAKI  asked whether other  fisheries were  impacted by                                                              
the ruling.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  EVANSON  answered  no;  the ruling  only  targets  the  troll                                                              
Chinook salmon  fisheries in Southeast  Alaska that take  place in                                                              
the summer and winter months.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:58:11 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DUNBAR commented  that  if  the troll  fishery  can be  a                                                              
target,  there  is no  question  that  other  gear types  will  be                                                              
challenged in the future.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
He asked  how the  Wild Fish Conservancy  justified targeting  the                                                              
Alaska troll  fishery and  not the  troll fisheries in  Washington                                                              
and Oregon.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. EVANSON  replied that the  Wild Fish Conservancy  targeted the                                                              
Southeast Chinook  troll fisheries because the  state's biological                                                              
opinion  had the  $118  mitigation package;  $56  million went  to                                                              
prey  production  and that  troll  fishery  was  tied to  it.  She                                                              
speculated  that  the  reasons  included  that  that's  where  the                                                              
lion's share of  the harvest is and that the WFC  board is largely                                                              
comprised of  sport fishermen. The  thought process could  be that                                                              
without the  Chinook troll fishery,  the hatchery  production from                                                              
the Lower  48 wasn't  necessary; one would  offset the  other. She                                                              
said the  reality is  that all fisheries  on the western  seaboard                                                              
rely on the  mitigation measure; a foregone harvest  in Southeast,                                                              
doesn't equal  a commensurate  level of  fish available  to killer                                                              
whales.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
4:00:55 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP  opened public testimony  on HJR 5;  finding none,                                                              
he  closed  public  testimony. Finding  no  further  questions  or                                                              
comments, he solicited a motion.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
4:01:17 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR  GIESSEL moved to  report the  CS for  HJR 5, work  order                                                              
33-LS0338\U,  from committee with  individual recommendations  and                                                              
attached fiscal note(s).                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:01:30 PM                                                                                                                    
CO-CHAIR BISHOP found  no objection and CSHJR 5(FSH)  was reported                                                              
from the Senate Resources Standing Committee.                                                                                   

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